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Huan's avatar

I wonder if part of the motivation (not just for Clavicular but this malaise in general) is driven by uncertainty. You said it yourself, “there is no future.”

If you can’t trust your political leadership to lead you (not based enough or not progressive enough), your parents to guide you (outdated perspectives, uncool, or just representative of a life you don’t feel applicable to you or achievable by you), society to care for you (oligarchy oppressing you, immigrants replacing you), your friends to be there for you (not based or redpilled, or at capacity and wondering if there’s someone else you can talk to), your employer to keep you fed and with health insurance - how can you feel secure in your place in the world and your resources and safety/livelihood?

Higher (felt) status buys some psychological felt sense of safety, certainty. And in an environment where the more abstract things like institutions, rules, social contracts, feel distant or uncertain, it seems rational (as in incentive, not as in reasonable) to revert to a more “basic, animalistic” behavior to pursue that status.

Brendan B's avatar

Reminds me of bodybuilding, where lifting weights goes beyond any of the traditional benefits and becomes a self-contained competitive endeavor. As bizarre as this looksmaxxing stuff is, at least these guys have some sort of project to work on—that's more than a lot of guys can say. Really just shows you how far we've fallen. Something is clearly wrong when a guy in his 20s has no interest in sex. There used to be a theory that sex was the entire underlying reason why men were ambitious to succeed in other areas.

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