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Brendan B's avatar

Sex described as "inherently traumatic and dangerous" tells you so much. In the past, you might criticize the youth for not giving any thought to the risks of sex, so strong was their desire that any concerns were quickly brushed aside. Now the desire is muted and the concerns are front and center. They may even be an excuse for avoiding something as confusing and unpredictable as human interaction. I don't know if sex is always about power or avoiding loneliness or whatever, but it is always about desire.

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"Everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power."

There's an understanding sex is something women "give" and men "take". I've heard this rhetoric challenged by sex-positive progressives, yet it is something people of all persuasions operate by IMHO.

The fuckboy knows that hooking up with a woman who wants more gives him leverage over her (she "gave" it so easily). A single woman knows that playing hard-to-get, or at least compelling men to initiate, gives her leverage over a man until she "gives it up" and gets attached.

Then there's the Trump factor. In the past, young men and women were cock blocked by the Church more than anything. Its helpful to have a shared enemy! As MAGA embraces Hawk Tuah girl and the like, this turns women off from wanting sex in a way rebellious women like Janis Joplin did.

Lastly, I think it's important to note your conversation literally happened among women only as far as I can tell. It's not controversial to say men want more sex (with exceptions of course)! Implicitly, this conversation is around the nebulous concept of "what women really want". I could go on about hot takes that the sexual revolution was made by & for men (think Playboy) or that feminists want sexless men to suffer ( [feminist identification correlated with decreased sympathy and support for incels' romantic success, increased levels of blame, and much higher levels of overall animosity towards incels, particularly among women](https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2025/01/Seeing-Through-The-Black-Pill-WC.pdf) ), but I gotta go to work now LOL.

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